#1175 – Chris Kresser & Dr. Joel Kahn – The Joe Rogan

A well-moderated, in-depth discussion between two experts about the role of saturated fat and cholesterol in the diet and contrasting omnivorous and plant-based diets with the standard American diet.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Chris Kresser, M.S., L.Ac is a globally recognized leader in the fields of ancestral health, Paleo nutrition, and functional and integrative medicine. Dr. Joel Kahn is one of the world’s top cardiologists and believes that plant-based nutrition is the most powerful source of preventative medicine on the planet. https://chriskresser.com/rogan https://drjoelkahn.com/joe-rogan-experience-reference-guide/

Toddlers Medicated for A.D.H.D.

More than 10,000 American toddlers 2 or 3 years old are being medicated for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder outside established pediatric guidelines, according to data presented on Friday by an official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

An article in the New York Times by Alan Shwarz shines light on what I believe to be one of the most barbaric practices of 21st century psychiatry. Young children, with developing brains, are being medicated in order to moderate developmentally appropriate behavior. In plain language, little kids are being drugged because they are doing what kids are supposed to do.

A toddler is supposed to be a bundle on energy. A toddler is supposed to be all over the place exploring the new world they find themselves in.

I can see someone asking, “Aren’t you being kind of extreme? Aren’t these well established pharmaceuticals with known side effects? And aren’t these carefully administered medicines far less harmful than the toxins in the environment that the blood takes to the brain?”

Extreme? Not in the least. My objections are entirely reasonable. As far as side effects go, we do have a pretty good idea how they effect adults but the long term effects on a developing brain are far less well understood. Like it says in the article there are known risks “for growth suppression, insomnia and hallucinations.” The question about toxins is interesting.

First, the comparative danger from environmental toxins depends entirely on the toxins present in the environment. Regardless of the environment you are adding a substance to the body that would not have been there other wise. However, the real big deal is that toxins in the blood do not necessarily reach the brain.

Blood does not reach the brain. The blood comes very close, but before it gets there it is blocked by the blood-brain barrier (BBB). The body is very selective about what makes it into the brain and it uses the BBB to screen out the stuff that shouldn’t get in there.

These drugs penetrate the BBB; they literally touch the brain. These drugs change the way the brain functions and there is not a good understanding what consequences these changes have in how the child’s brain develops. That they can make kids shorter than they would be otherwise is not disputable.

Now, the world is a big place and there are over 7 billion people living on it. It is conceivable that there are toddlers who are so hyperactive that they need to be medicated. First I would want to look at environmental factors like diet and opportunities to exercise (i.e. play hard), however let’s assume that we have found a 2 year old who is not paying attention well enough. In such a case there is not an established, researched, or accepted approach. This child, like all the other children who are being “medicated,” would be an experiment.

Speaking for myself, I take a dim view of experimenting on children and their brains.


Fitness, getting in shape, staying is shape, working out, exercise, whatever. There are only two components to physical fitness. There is the environment we want our body to adapt to and then there is getting ourselves to voluntarily subject our body to that environment. Presently I want that environment to lead to me achieving three specific goals. I want to be able to haul an 80 lb pack up a hill repeatedly, get over the bar (or muscle up), and build up muscle strength and endurance in my upper body to aid keeping the handgun still while shooting out to 25 and 50 yards. Getting over the bar may be a little ambitious but the rest are perfectly reasonable and all of them can be attained through pretty straight forward increments. The only problem is that don’t like “exercising.” I don’t have an issue with exercise. If I am playing soccer, hiking, splitting wood, wrestling, or any other endeavor I enjoy that is physically demanding I don’t mind at all but if it is exercise for the sake of fitness then I have a hard time finding motivation.

Motivation is important in general for staying on track with a fitness program but it is essential for getting over the hump in the initial phase. Getting over the hump is the hardest place. My experience is that I am not good at anything. Everything I do burns and makes me sick, and then the next few days I am sore. Is it any surprise I’m not feeling the motivation to keep pressing on? The only time I was able to really motivate myself to get out on my own was when as a police officer I saw that my strength could be the only thing that would save my life or someone else’s. Since then I have not found what would motivate me to subject my body to the environment I want to adapt to, until now.

I have found that what I need is in a word–accountability. I have found a personal trainer. Having worked with a personal trainer for a little while now I see there are many benefits but the one that makes all the others matter, for me at least, is that I make a commitment.

“Hey Ben, when are you coming in again?”

“I’ll be here Thursday at seven.”

Right there is what makes it work. I gave my word that I would be at a certain place at a specific time. We as human beings have a capacity for self delusion/deception that is for all intents and purposes, infinite. I wake up sore and aching from a previous workout and I can con myself into all sorts of reasons I don’t need to, or perhaps even shouldn’t, hit my routine. For me though, what I’ve found is that the commitment cuts through all that.

There are some other things that make working with a trainer better than when I was trying to make it happen solo. When I show up I don’t know what he has planned for me, I just know I’m going to work. When he tells me to do something that is all I am thinking about. I’m not dreading what will come next, I’m not wondering how I will get through the end of the workout, I’m in the moment. He is there to make sure that I’m doing the movements correctly and when he sees that I’m too far behind the curve stops me or adjusts the activity to suit where I’m at. finally, one of the great things is he is there with positive attitude and encouragement. It feels a little hokey at first but when I’m gassed and my whole body is screaming out, “QUIT” I really hook into the encouragement and use it to get me through. I don’t like working alone and having him and the other folks there makes the whole thing better.

Here is the key. I spent a long time trying to make myself do the self initiated workout. My thinking was that I should be able to motivate myself to do that. I guess I should but I didn’t. “Should” is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what will really work. I am not advocating everyone find a trainer. I am advocating that everyone make real and ongoing assessments of what they want, and if what they are doing to achieve it is working. If it is not working then change it and change it without reference to pride or ego.

Getting Over the Bar

No, this is not me. . .yet.